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Title: Sundown Cinema
Post by: Joe@SSL on July 10, 2008, 08:01:24 pm
Well, I suppose it's about time to post my setup.

B-52 ACT-18 Subwoofers (2 shown - 4 avail)
EV Sx300 hipac's (2 used - 8 avail)
QSC amps (RMX2450 + GX5) (1 set used - 3 sets avail)
Rane Crossover
Dell MP4100 projector
Custom DJScreen.com 18'x10' (stretches to 30'x15')
American Audio DJ mixer

Not shown
30') Versatruss trussing (to hang screen from)
2) Little Giant 17' Skyscraper stepladders (stands for the trussing)


Title: Re: Sundown Cinema
Post by: Backyard Paradise on July 10, 2008, 10:45:23 pm
Looks like your ready to rock! good job on the screen.
Can you rear project on it?


Title: Re: Sundown Cinema
Post by: Joe@SSL on July 10, 2008, 11:11:20 pm
Looks like your ready to rock! good job on the screen.
Can you rear project on it?

Thanks, yeah the screen actually works better with rear projection as the light is projected at the audience instead of bouncing back.

I've got a movie planned in a couple weeks that'll use the truss / ladder stands.  I'll post pic's when I get a chance.


Title: Re: Sundown Cinema
Post by: Pyronious on July 11, 2008, 01:03:44 am
Nice rack!


Title: Re: Sundown Cinema
Post by: Joe@SSL on July 11, 2008, 11:58:45 am
Nice rack!

Must resist comment, must resist  ;D


Title: Re: Sundown Cinema
Post by: Pyronious on July 11, 2008, 12:13:34 pm
Ah, the double entendre, cousin to the pun.   I couldn't resist. ;)


Title: Re: Sundown Cinema
Post by: brian on August 08, 2008, 10:52:55 am
what made you choose this type of scrren
what are the pros and cons


Title: Re: Sundown Cinema
Post by: Joe@SSL on August 08, 2008, 11:59:58 am
what made you choose this type of scrren
what are the pros and cons

Brian,

First, welcome to BYT, I'm sure you'll find many answers to your questions.

I chose this particular screen / setup because it affords me the option to change the size as I need it.

I am a sound & lighting rental & sales company and have offered my clients video projection for many years.  Recently they have asked for something larger than the normal 106" (8'x4.5") pull down screens so readily available.  As you can see I kind of got carried away.   ::)

The screen starts out at a respectable 18' wide x 10' tall and will stretch to almost 30' wide x 15' tall.  I currently only needed the smaller size which hangs very nicely from a stand rig made up of 30' of triangular trussing suspended from a pair of 17' tall step ladders.  This will easily get the screen 15' in the air leaving the bottom approx. 5' from the ground.  I simply attach a couple of 5gal buckets to the bottom two corners and fill them with water to keep the screen from moving too much in a breeze.

If at a later date I decide to go insane (although my wife is pretty sure I'm already there) I would need to add additional trussing to make a complete frame to stretch the screen and attach it to.  I would also need to find an alternative to the ladders for stands although I can always use additional trussing to make legs and such.

Pro's:
   Light weight / compact
      screen wads up and stuffs into a small duffel bag
   Easy to setup
      in the pictures above I've simply attached the screen to the gutter of the barn in the pic.  When using the ladders & truss it does become more time consuming but still only takes about 30 minutes to put up.
   Can be used for either front or rear projection
   Can be thrown in a large washer/dryer or dry cleaned
   Variable sizes
   Ladders are VERY stable with 10' wide base's they aren't going to blow over easily.

Con's:
   Pricey - I paid roughly $550 delivered for mine but it is a custom job with lots of time consuming attachment loops added
   Stands/trussing are bulky to store - but then again if you've got a large enough wall to hang the screen from you won't need them.
   Stands & trussing are pricey.  I'm a Versatruss dealer but still the 10m (~30') cost me $750, the ladders were an additional $620 each and the rigging to safely suspend them will run an additional ~$50 or so.

Hope that helps, feel free to contact me if you need more specifics.


Title: Re: Sundown Cinema
Post by: Joe@SSL on August 11, 2008, 11:35:35 am
Ok, had a chance over the weekend to take pic's of an alternate setup that I thought I'd share.

Total set-up time 1-1/2 hr
Total tear-down time 1 hr
Total drive time 3 hours

Attendance 200 people

Gettin' to play with toys - worth every minute  :D
Already booked for next year!  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Sundown Cinema
Post by: movielover on August 11, 2008, 11:41:03 am
very impressive looking !!
do you tie off the ladders ?


Title: Re: Sundown Cinema
Post by: Joe@SSL on August 11, 2008, 11:49:48 am
very impressive looking !!
do you tie off the ladders ?

Thanks,

No real need to tie the ladders down.  The base is well over 12' fully extended.  With the screen being a type of spandex and held down by just a couple buckets even if a wind catches it everything will stretch long before it tips the ladders.  I could easily drop a line from each end for grins but it's pretty stable (unlike your's truly  ::) )

With the truss suspended like it is it's free to move side to side as well.  If the wind kicks up that bad I simply pull the string on the buckets and let er flap like a flag.  If it gets to that point I'm packing it in any way.


Title: Re: Sundown Cinema
Post by: movielover on August 11, 2008, 12:49:39 pm
that's what i kind of thought, if the wind gets to wicked you'd pack up.
i used my cb screen two times over the weekend and only tied off the top.
it was really breezy friday night and it never moved, i put semi-permanent stakes in the ground and wrapped yellow caution tape around them so i see them, i'm not worried about others but i know in time i will run my mower over top of them (they are 12" out of the ground and 1/2" rebar) and destroy the blades or worse yet puncture a tire.


Title: Re: Sundown Cinema
Post by: Joe@SSL on June 14, 2009, 04:38:12 pm
Time for some updated rack photos   ;D

The first pic is the "process rack" with DVD, mixer and EQ.

The second pic stacks the process rack on top of an amplifier rack (stereo only).  If I'm running subwoofers I've got additional racks with 2 or more amplifiers as needed.


Title: Re: Sundown Cinema
Post by: tscoff on June 14, 2009, 05:28:10 pm
I really like the multiple racks that you have.  Great job!  That makes moving them around much easier.


Title: Re: Sundown Cinema
Post by: Joe@SSL on June 14, 2009, 08:27:40 pm
Thanks.

separate pieces fit in a car much easier  ;)

Multiple racks also allows me more flexibility (subs / no subs / A-line / B-line DVD package / yada, yada)  My back thanks me.

Generally I have the amp rack strapped to a dolly board w/ 8" pneumatic tires for the trip across the yard.  I just happened to be out this afternoon moving stuff  around and figured I'd snap a couple pic's


Title: Re: Sundown Cinema
Post by: Pyronious on June 15, 2009, 01:08:47 pm
I wish I had gone with two racks like this.  I crammed everything into 1 and now it's both A) Too heavy and B) out of expansion room.  Live and learn!


Title: Re: Sundown Cinema
Post by: Joe@SSL on June 15, 2009, 08:20:15 pm
They are handy.  I currently have 6 of the 6 space racks with 3 more slated for a July purchase.

I've standardized on the 6 space rack because I can drop 2 amplifiers, crossover & surge supressor in a rack & still be able to put it in the back seat of a car.  It also keeps the box under 100#'s.  (I ain't gettin' any younger  ;) )