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1  Backyard Theater discussions / Projector specific / Re: All in one case for projector, player and mixer on: April 19, 2017, 04:38:41 pm
Easiest solution I've created is to use a 6U shallow rack case and put the following inside:

Power Conditioner (1U)
Rolls MiniMixer / Sony Blu-ray / HDMI Audio Extractor (all on 1U rack tray attached with 3M DualLock)
1U Black Space (to allow airflow for amplifier below)
Power Amplifier (2U)

I've built three cases like this and they are compact and all pre-wired so super easy to setup. You plug in the power and then connect projector and two audio cables and you're done.

I just put the projector on top of the case. If you wanted to mount the projector inside, you'd just need to buy a larger 10U case and an additional rack tray.

I'll post a picture here sometime if I think about it.
2  Backyard Theater discussions / Projector specific / Re: Specs for garage based projector with medium ambient light? on: March 29, 2017, 09:01:17 pm
appreciate that insight and the heads up on the refurb clearance.  but wouldn't i be giving up a  lot of lumens, bearing in mind that I'm currently running 2000 which is not enough?  The panasonic only has 3k, while the sanyo is at 5k. Or are there other features that would offset lower lumens?

I'm seeing the bulbs for $60 on ebay.  This would only be switched on maybe 10-15 hours a week during spring/summer, then shut off for probably 6 months, so I'm not TOO concerned about bulb life


On a white screen, more lumens ins't going to do as much as you might think if the surface is lit and there is little contrast to be had. I own several 5000 projectors and several of the smaller Epson 3000 lumen ones as well. I can barely tell the difference between the two on the same size screen pre-sunset. With some light control provided by the garage, you would probably have an advantage with the 5000 machine. It would be even more obvious with one of the dark grey "high-contrast" screen surfaces.

10-15 hours a week isn't much so bulb life might be less of an issue for you. My home projector is on 5-10 hours a day (roommates with different schedules) so I'm very conscience of bulb price. The OEM-equivalent bulbs sold on Amazon and eBay are not as bright and don't last nearly as long as factory bulbs. There's a reason they are cheap. I had a Sanyo PLC-XT35 and tried an OEM bulb in it once. It was noticeably dimmer than the factory bulb. One of my Epson projectors had a cheap bulb last year for awhile. It blew out after 3 months. Look at the Amazon reviews for most cheap replacement bulbs. That's why I brought up how current-model Epson (and certain other manufacturers) have less expensive bulbs than usual so that a plus for my type of usage. Just check the cost of a factory bulb on any projector so you are at least aware of it before you buy.

You might be perfectly happy with the Sanyo machine linked. It's big, heavy, 4:3 and an older model so just be aware of the limitations. Sanyo/Christie made a lot of different projector models with this same case and I think it's a particularly good looking projector. Sometimes I get bogged down in the features when a big screen outdoors is going to make me happy regardless.
3  Backyard Theater discussions / Projector specific / Re: Specs for garage based projector with medium ambient light? on: March 29, 2017, 09:16:13 am
For just $100 more, I'd buy this: https://epson.com/Clearance-Center/Home-Entertainment/PowerLite-Home-Cinema-740HD-720p-3LCD-Projector---Refurbished/p/V11H764020-N

A few of the advantages is the warranty, $79 factory replacement bulbs, native 16:10 aspect ratio and it's much lighter and easier to mount.

That Sanyo you're looking at will be expensive when it comes time to replace the bulb.
4  Backyard Theater discussions / Screen specific / Re: A lesser known 16'x9', 220" outdoor screen option - outstandingscreens.com on: March 24, 2017, 11:18:50 pm
Unfortunate you think Bill is an idiot for using my product, and you think they snap like a twig in the breeze or that they can be knocked over by a child brushing against them.

No, I don't think Bill is a idiot. I think he is biased because his testimonial of using your screen versus OAC screens is that OAC screens take a long time to setup/tear down. This is objectively not true. I use OAC screens every week year after year and they are incredibly fast to setup and tear down. I don't recommend OAC Home screens for other reasons, but setup/teardown speed isn't one of them.

There's also a big difference between twig in the breeze and a 30 mph wind. I've personally hung on to a freestanding screen from Carl in a 20+ mph wind as the 1" steel EMT bent in half because it couldn't handle the force. I can't think think of any screen that could stay usable in a 30 mph wind, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

I am passionate about outdoor movies and I love to see innovation and new designs come to market. If anything, I'm jealous that you've created an original design and a business around it. However, there are trade-offs with any system. The OutStanding Screen doesn't solve all the problems every one of us deals with depending on our screen choice. Some of those trade-offs are noted in this thread.

There's nothing wrong with targeting the consumer market and I hope you are successful in doing so, but you were the one who brought up commercial use even before my first comment:

("We can even include extra parts for those in commercial applications for unexpected events.")

Commercial customers want something that looks high-end. When they're paying $500+ for me to setup a system, I want them to get their moneys worth.

As I said earlier, if you want to send me a demo unit to review, I'll give a comprehensive review and compare the pros and cons to other screens on the market. You very well may hit the mark for being the best for your particular application. After some Googling, I still haven't found any reviews that compare OSS to any other screens.
5  Backyard Theater discussions / Screen specific / Re: A lesser known 16'x9', 220" outdoor screen option - outstandingscreens.com on: March 24, 2017, 08:28:36 pm
I would have been far less critical if it didn't initially feel like you were spamming the board. I've seen this screen before and I admitted it would probably be a good screen for backyard use. While you may have been involved in BYT for a long time, your account on here only has you promoting your own product and you should have been up front about that in the first post. Without any other introduction or contribution from yourself here, that's all we know about you.

For it's size and price, your screen is a great value and based on the YouTube video (which I actually watched last year), it's far easier to setup than a comparable one of Carl's freestanding screens. The Sound & Vision review doesn't compare the pros and cons of Outstanding Screens to alternatives on the market so it wasn't very useful for me. Also, Bill's review didn't ring true for me either because I've setup Open Air Cinema (OAC) screens literally hundreds of times and there's nothing I've used yet that is easier to setup/tear-down. I would love to be proven wrong.

If you'd like a critical review of your screen from someone who has used nearly every type of system on the market I'd be happy to do so. I'll give you my feedback, write a comparative review against your competition (which you can publish at your own decision if you like it), and mail it back to you at my own expense. I currently own screens from Carlofet, Camp Chef, Open Air Cinema, Airscreen, Shoscreen, Loch, Elite Outdoor Movies and a few random Chinese screens so I can make honest comparisons to just about nearly every other screen on the market. PM me if you're interested.
6  Backyard Theater discussions / Screen specific / Re: A lesser known 16'x9', 220" outdoor screen option - outstandingscreens.com on: March 24, 2017, 12:34:23 am
There is a great review in Sound & Vision magazine that is linked on their website. The screen is wind-friendly, weatherproof and easy to setup and take down. There is also a link to YouTube showing how to set the screen up. They also have other information on outdoor theater.

You acted like this was someone's else product and you expect us to trust you? It makes your recommendation suddenly far less sincere.

“…this is our go to screen for all our commercial events. It’s easy to set-up and take down. So much better than our old blow-up screen from Open Air Cinema which is only usable during extremely optimal conditions otherwise is like a pillow case with a little bit of wind and takes much more time to set-up/tear down. It’s just not as simple and fun to work with as yours.” Bill Taylor - OSS Customer

Bill Taylor uses this screen for commercial events? I'd love to hear his client reviews. 99% of my events big and small have young kids. Someone would knock this screen over in a second. I can setup an OAC Home screen in 5 minutes. What's taking Bill so long?

Unlike Bill. I use my OAC screens in all kinds of non-optimal conditions. He's right about them getting billowy in high winds, but that's a better outcome then it snapping in half. My Airscreens are the only screens I currently own that I would completely trust is 15 mph+ winds. The energy has to go someone and I can't imagine your screen handling it much better.

It's also strange you're still quoting your source and acting like this product isn't connected to you. Just be upfront about it if you want to pitch your product here.

when the lights are out there is just a picture floating in space, nothing else matters.

Nope. For my own backyard it's probably good for the size/price, but I can't fathom renting this out. It doesn't look expensive and appearance matters for commercial use. The black borders you think are dead weight give a nice clean area to slightly overshoot the picture so that the light absorbs into the black border instead on the trees, nature, etc behind the screen. These nitpicks are small, but a bunch of them added up make the difference between a professional presentation and a fancy bed sheet.

It can also stand about a 30mph wind.

Video please. Something like this hopefully: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiNFgNhvi7I

I'm sure you would agree that when you go to all that effort to do an outdoor movie, a 50" screen (or sheet) kind of takes away that "Drive-in" experience.

I think most of us already have outdoor screens way larger than 50 inches. That size is already practically normal for indoor use.
7  Backyard Theater discussions / Screen specific / Re: A lesser known 16'x9', 220" outdoor screen option - outstandingscreens.com on: March 21, 2017, 10:26:11 pm
I'd love to hear from someone who has used one, or ideally, someone who has used traditional-style screens as well so we can get a comparison.
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/ Screens -- for sale and wanted / For Sale: Carl's Fitting Kit for 16x9 Freestanding and 16x9 Hanging
on: February 27, 2017, 06:44:29 pm
I have two screen (fittings only) kits for Carl's 16'x9' screen size. They are well-used, but in functional condition. At least one of the fittings in the freestanding kit has been re-threaded by me because the bolt threads wear out over time.

I also have a damaged Flexigray 16x9 screen with 55 bungees. The damage is as follows: screen is separating from border at one corner and there is some small holes scratched in it. It's functional, but obviously not in perfect condition.

$70 + shipping for freestanding kit
$25 + shipping for hanging kit
$70 + shipping for Flexigray screen
$10 + shipping for a 2nd set of bungees

All prices are negotiable. I have several random brass connectors as well when I was experimenting with different screen designs. They can be thrown in with any order for free (I'll have to double-check exactly what part numbers I have).
9  Backyard Theater discussions / Screen specific / Re: Blackout Material on: February 24, 2017, 03:48:27 pm
I bought blackout cloth from a fabric store here in Nashville and it looks just as good as Carl's fabric. However,  I imagine that the quality can vary depending on the store. For screen use, I'd buy Carl's just to be safe.
10  Backyard Theater discussions / General discussion / Re: New console for 2017 season on: February 09, 2017, 04:09:44 pm
How do you like the Denon Blu-ray player? I'm using much of the same gear as you except I have an Oppo 103 mounted. I'd love to move down to a 1U player, but I really like having the dual HDMI outputs.
11  Backyard Theater discussions / General discussion / Re: Super Bowl LI on: February 07, 2017, 08:49:43 am
I bought a screen to the beer garden at my roommate's bar. It ended up looking great once things got dark. The picture is a little overshot because the projector is about 60' back so I couldn't get it tight enough to fit the screen correctly.
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/ Screens -- for sale and wanted / Re: Sealed-Air Screens Ship in time for Superbowl
on: January 27, 2017, 06:27:53 pm
How are the screens attached to the frame surface?
13  Around the campfire - off-topic discussions / General off-topic discussions / Re: What else do you do besides work and BYT ? on: January 20, 2017, 09:31:04 pm
I rent movie screens fulltime now. So once winter came I took my equipment trailer and drove out to the southwest American desert waiting out until spring. My life has taken a strange turn as a result of this forum.
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/ Screens -- for sale and wanted / Re: Carl's Flexigray 16x9
on: October 18, 2016, 12:52:02 am
Yes, the tearing is near one of the corners. The material used for the flexigray just isn't as sturdy as the BOC fabric and it ripped from the stitching on one corner while I was stretching it over the frame. If you're looking for a cheap screen this is it, but that's the reason I'm selling it for $30 instead of the $265 it originally cost.
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/ Screens -- for sale and wanted / Carl's Flexigray 16x9
on: October 17, 2016, 05:17:20 pm
I'm selling a two-year-old screen with finished edges that has some mild ripping near the seams (the flexigray isn't nearly as durable as the BOC!) There is also a few small holes near the bottom center where is came in contact with an exposed screw while taking it down one night. I used it as-is as a rental screen this year, but I'm retiring it. The damage isn't really noticeable unless you're up close. $30 obo plus shipping from Nashville, TN area.
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