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 11 
 on: March 22, 2017, 06:45:53 pm 
Started by Lawson@yedi.com - Last post by Lawson@yedi.com
I know your screens will do both front and rear projection. What do you do. The reason I ask is when do rear projection you loose some brightness. The amount depends on screen size. Of the top of my head I would not do under 4500 lum.,  HD, HDMI, RGB. Stay with a brand name. That said it all depends on your budget.
rg

I front project. My minimum goals are 3,000 lumens, 1080p native, $500 target, multiple inputs for versatility. I generally do stay with name brands. Presently we use 1152x768, 2,000 lumens, 2,000:1 contrast ratio and have been very happy with brightness. Contrast is the weakness, but that projector is probably 10 years old at this point and cost $899.
Here is the link to the thread.
http://backyardtheater.com/forums/index.php/topic,9092.0.html

 12 
 on: March 22, 2017, 06:34:35 pm 
Started by Lawson@yedi.com - Last post by movieman
I know your screens will do both front and rear projection. What do you do. The reason I ask is when do rear projection you loose some brightness. The amount depends on screen size. Of the top of my head I would not do under 4500 lum.,  HD, HDMI, RGB. Stay with a brand name. That said it all depends on your budget.

rg

 13 
 on: March 22, 2017, 06:15:32 pm 
Started by Lawson@yedi.com - Last post by Lawson@yedi.com
Just to update I own several OAC, LOCH, BACKYARD screens plus several other makes. I'm an old Drive-in Theater operator. I want my screens to represent a prof. look. I insist on a high end presentation. My viewers are do the very best.  
I did check out the site and youtub. What is the height from the ground to the bottom of the sheet. It appears to be on the low side.            
 Is this screen business yours.  I saw Lawson on the bottom of the web site.

rg

That's great that you used to operate a Drive-in Theater! I used to setup screens for a video company some years ago. It's amazing what technology has brought to our own homes and backyards these days! Imagine playing video games wirelessly on a 220" screen with surround sound. I'm sure you would agree that when you go to all that effort to do an outdoor movie, a 50" screen (or sheet) kind of takes away that "Drive-in" experience. However, I went to a drive-in recently and we were so far away that my iPhone picture was the same size as the screen! Put a 220" screen in front of 1- to 50 people and you have something stunning!

I'm not familiar with what OAC or BACKYARD stands for?

Yes I am that Lawson. I was compelled to design and build my own screen for my son's birthday party back when inflatables were $1,400. After that I experimented with prototypes for several years in my free-time. After some encouragement I worked to commercialize my final screen design. Our customers have all been exceedingly happy and we have had zero returns. It's nice being the owner because I can directly take care of customers, especially since we make everything here in the US.

The screen is 2'1" off the ground. For those who want more height, we have made leg extensions, and even built one-sided extensions for those who were on a left to right slant. Another customer is suspending the screen completely. I really work with people in any way I can so they can enjoy outdoor movies. We can even include extra parts for those in commercial applications for unexpected events.

On a side note, do you have any projector recommendations? I posted a question over in projectors. I haven't been following the projector technology lately and I'm trying to shortcut my research! You definitely sound like the person to know in the event someone needs a commercial event setup. I'm sure your past experience is something that is rare these days. Now I just need to find a guy to fix my pinball machine!

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 on: March 22, 2017, 05:57:03 pm 
Started by rich92069 - Last post by rich92069
thanks for the heads up, I am a member of the BYT group on facebook already. 

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 on: March 22, 2017, 05:12:25 pm 
Started by Lawson@yedi.com - Last post by movieman
 Just to update I own several OAC, LOCH, BACKYARD screens plus several other makes. I'm an old Drive-in Theater operator. I want my screens to represent a prof. look. I insist on a high end presentation. My viewers are do the very best.  
I did check out the site and youtub. What is the height from the ground to the bottom of the sheet. It appears to be on the low side.            
 Is this screen business yours.  I saw Lawson on the bottom of the web site.

rg

 16 
 on: March 22, 2017, 05:06:05 pm 
Started by Lawson@yedi.com - Last post by Lawson@yedi.com
Sorry it rubbed you the wrong way.
From what I see it has NO full frame, NO feet. I've tried screens with just to upright poles supported by only guide line to secure it.

Loch screens are well built, light weight, rear projection and look pro and are not that pricey.

If you plan on only using the screen for your backyard fine, but if your renting out that's another story.

Just my thoughts

No offense meant, no offense taken! There is a setup video that is just under 7 minutes long. I think you would be surprised how sturdy the screen is. At one point in the video you can see how the screen moves as one unit. It can also stand about a 30mph wind. Also if conditions change in a hurry the Outstanding Screen can just stay outside or be taken down in a hurry. They are also truly 16'x9', 220" screens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfyUezTjgEs

I do get your point about appearances, but when the lights are out there is just a picture floating in space, nothing else matters. Putting a black border around the screen for appearances would just add weight, and a frame can bend. OutStanding Screens are made here in the US, and you can get parts anytime you need them. I definitely think they have a place in the outdoor movie space...even for your son! :-)

I used to videotape depositions for attorneys and you couldn't pan or zoom, or anything. You just wanted good sound. At some point I would start to read a magazine or something, and then I realized that for what they were paying me I should try to look like it was more difficult than it was! Lol. I suspect the same is true in a commercial use of a screen rental, but the screens are made of good quality materials. They can also be put on a slope and tilted forward or back if needed.

The Loch screens are however the least expensive inflatables I've seen of that size. Generally inflatables of that size are in the $1,200 range. So for those in the market for an inflatable they may well be the best options. I've heard mixed reviews on inflatables in general, things like sagging, wrinkled screens, susceptible to winds, noisy fans and such. I just like simplicity.

 17 
 on: March 22, 2017, 03:47:37 pm 
Started by Lawson@yedi.com - Last post by movieman
Sorry it rubbed you the wrong way.
From what I see it has NO full frame, NO feet. I've tried screens with just to upright poles supported by only guide line to secure it.

Loch screens are well built, light weight, rear projection and look pro and are not that pricey.

If you plan on only using the screen for your backyard fine, but if your renting out that's another story.

Just my thoughts


 18 
 on: March 22, 2017, 03:12:50 pm 
Started by Lawson@yedi.com - Last post by Lawson@yedi.com
I'm looking for some projector suggestions. I have an old DLP projector that is 1024x768 native with 2,000 lumens and a 2,000:1 contrast ratio. It works great for my movies, never any complaints on our 16x9 screen, but that projector cost $899 back when I bought it. I regularly see projectors that are 1080p and 3,000 lumens for $550 or less. What projector would you buy today for outside theater? Is there a preferred brand or type? Thanks.

- I need to throw to a 220" OutStanding Screens screen. Right now I project from 26' which is perfect.
- I want HDMI, 15pin PC, component and s-video plugs. I guess I want options in a pinch even though s-video won't carry 1080p.
- It might be nice to have options. Can I change lenses on some projectors and get both long and short throw? How short for a 220" screen?
- My projector SUCK when it comes to replacing bulbs. One bulb cost nearly $400 some years ago. I hope that has changed.

Other than that, is there such a thing as an outdoor projector, or should I just not my projector get rained on? I have put screen across the vents at times to prevent bugs from getting in, but I now project from a screened in porch.

Oh, and to my subject, LCD, DLP, LED, 3D. Holy crap! I just want a projector that is bright, with high contrast, that last forever, and is inexpensive.

I did buy a Viewsonic PJD5533w projector as a refurb through Macmall a couple years ago. It was $299 and 1080p (see below). Cheaper than a replacement light bulb for my old projector, so I had to buy it. I gave it to a friend and now I wish I hadn't! I should have bought 10 of them.

Correction: I just checked the specs of the Viewsonic above. It had 128x800 native resolution, not 1080p. But, it was 2,800 lumens and had a 15,000:1 contrast ratio. Still an improvement, but not native 1080p

Thanks for your thoughts!

 19 
 on: March 22, 2017, 02:29:51 pm 
Started by Lawson@yedi.com - Last post by Lawson@yedi.com
I'd love to hear from someone who has used once, or ideally, someone who has used traditional-style screens as well so we can get a comparison.

Sound & Vision's review of the screen offers some insight into the picture quality.
http://www.soundandvision.com/content/outstandingscreens-oss-drive-16-outdoor-projection-screen-review#zk3G9TcctmoiGVrH.97

Perhaps another part of your answer lies in this customer quote:
“…this is our go to screen for all our commercial events. It’s easy to set-up and take down. So much better than our old blow-up screen from Open Air Cinema which is only usable during extremely optimal conditions otherwise is like a pillow case with a little bit of wind and takes much more time to set-up/tear down. It’s just not as simple and fun to work with as yours.” Bill Taylor - OSS Customer
https://www.outstandingscreens.com/outstanding-screens-gar

 20 
 on: March 22, 2017, 02:01:43 pm 
Started by Lawson@yedi.com - Last post by Lawson@yedi.com
This is a NO thrills screen for a backyard only. You can buy a Loch screen and take it any where and a prof. looking screen.
Sorry, I would not buy it even for my sons backyard.
rg

Can you elaborate on your idea of "no thrills" as it relates to a screen? I'm not sure what you are referring to. The only things missing are either a large black structure, a fan(s), or a hard frame, all of which are not a functional part of a screen and add extra weight and complexity.

The OutStanding screen is taught, front and rear projectable, and acoustically transparent, not to mention weatherproof, mold and mildew resistant, fire-retardant, and very easy to setup and take down in a hurry. On top of all that it is very easy to store in the case and box 72"x6"x6". Oh, and you can machine wash the screen.

Did you read the review in Sound & Vision? Considering they test things quite regularly, they seemed quite happy with the image quality as well as the product as a whole. http://www.soundandvision.com/content/outstandingscreens-oss-drive-16-outdoor-projection-screen-review#zk3G9TcctmoiGVrH.97

As far as your son's backyard, I'm not sure why you included that dig? We are certainly all welcome to our opinions. I've never used a Loch screen personally, so I know little about your comparison. I guess I was focused on function more than looks. I did find a Loch Thread on backyard theater.coom. http://backyardtheater.com/forums/index.php?topic=8871.0

Thank you for your comments!

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